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Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

Guest — Mon, 13 Dec 2010 03:58:15 -0000

twitter is a very powerful social media. It can predict how well you can do in business.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

raid recovery — Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:27:39 -0000

I know very much about twitter but first time came to know about pounce.

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drew — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:29:50 -0000

Twitter is better connected in the web, thanks to google.

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Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

blabto — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 06:40:58 -0000

The growth of microblogging allows other websites to find niche markets within the 'market'. For example, sites are beginning to appear allowing SMS picture / video capture to be uploaded. This is a real opportunity for users to create a diary of their life in a short snippet...almost like the shift from email to text.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

Matthias — Sun, 19 Aug 2007 00:25:26 -0000

hi i enjoyed the read

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S!ick — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:10:57 -0000

I looked at Pownce and Jaiku...but Twitter looked "cleaner", gives the impression of being simpler, and I can access it from my PDAs. I'm all about the straightforwardness: I'm busy...I have things to do.

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Rob — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:36:42 -0000

Oooh just missed it. I'm sure there's a reason for that.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

Rob — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:35:41 -0000

Ok Jim, I'm really here for the pownce invite. I had read the post earlier, just didn't comment. I just posted a bit about conscious consumption and I'm not even sure I have room for Pownce myself. It may be my new shiny object. I admit though, I'm very curious.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

Eugene H — Sat, 07 Jul 2007 11:34:34 -0000

all this talk about pownce... i guess I'll need to try it out...

Twitter was kind of strange for me, until I used Twitteriffic. Then I 'got' it. Now it's always interesting to see what my new ~~strangers~~ friends are doing. I have no one that I actually knew before on Twitter, so all my 'friends' are cold call adds or they've added me.

I'm actually surprised that anyone adds me, actually... :)

wow, I used actually twice in one sentence...

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

SpaceyG — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 21:16:31 -0000

Twitter, Pownce, yadayadayada... just gimme a fine NABE cameraman any 'ole time. That's all the social media anyone needs.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

Joe Cascio — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:41:51 -0000

Good post, Jim!! Here's my take on Twitter:
http://joesvideoetc.blogspo...

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Connie Reece — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:26:45 -0000

When I sign on to Twitter early in the morning and find your tweet that says, "Fixing pancakes for the girl," I know that all is right in your world. And that makes my day go better!

I've been on Pownce almost since the beginning (before Steve Rubel, even!), and find I don't use it that much. I do see that it provides a different set of services, and can see myself using it for more of a business purpose.

The beauty of Twitter is that it lets me have presence w/ both personal and professional friends--wherever I am. For that reason alone, it will get the majority of my attention rather than Jaiku or Pownce or Whatever. Facebook is my second choice, for the same reasons as Twitter--mobile access and combination of personal & business use.

Sorry for the nickname, btw. :-)

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

jon — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:20:44 -0000

a dilemma. I'd comment on the two, but I don't have them. But if I don't have pownce, and thereby need an invite, i won't have anything to say that is relevent to the conversation. So if I promise a future comment, does that count?

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vaspers the grate aka steven e — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 10:21:44 -0000

Bloggers are moving to Micro Blogging and Toolbased Social Communities (socnets).

I once proclaimed the New Super Bloggers to be multi-media (podcasts, video, photo galleries, mp3s) and channel distributed (RSS, email updates). Now I see the new thrust: tiny journaling, link archiving/sharing, and file sharing via Twitter, Jaiku, Ning, Pownce, eg.

New Media entrepreneurs should all be experimenting with such tools. They are perfect for branded messages and low-key promotions, offering unique benefits to both marketers and message recipients.

Pownce has subtle, easily ignored interstitial note ads: ads placed between Pownce notes, but only every 10 or 20 notes, not intrusive or annoying. Splendid business modeling here. The more I use Pownce, the more I like it.

For the Twitter Supremicists out there, I also like Twitter for fast text messaging, but it eats my tweets, or double posts them, or is down a lot.

New Super Bloggers have moved from long, laborious blog posts once or twice a week, to moment-by-moment presencing streams, multi-media personal portals, and link/file sharing systems.

These interactive, community building, customizable Web 2.0 tools seem more intimate than the conventional blog, whose roots remain in the stodgy old Web 1.0 passivity world.

Socnet Motto: "We have nothing to fear, but success itself" re: scaling.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

1389 — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:55:13 -0000

Smile, you're on Digg! Twitter vs. Pownce: Comprehensive article by Jim Long of Verge New Media

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1389 — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:51:52 -0000

My own worry - and one that I don't believe that anyone has mentioned so far, is this: Digg has intense biases (in my opinion, of course, but this opinion is based on considerable evidence, not all collected by me!) - and its staff promotes those biases by the way it sets up its algorithm, by who it chooses to ban (or not ban), and by the power it gives to the "bury brigade."

Right now, Pownce is doing nothing to prevent people from plugging their Digg submissions. It's a natural for that, and I don't see that it's particularly objectionable as long as anybody can do this on equal terms.

But when Pownce goes live, I predict that Pownce/Digg's admins will impose the same double standards there as I believe them to be imposing on Digg. The infamous "bury brigade," the hard-left activists, the trolls - and the users who vigorously suppress any story that might get people thinking about counterterrorism - they'll start using Pownce. I'm afraid that the Pownce/Digg admins will allow them to use Pownce at will to organize their activities, but that anybody whose politics are pro-American, conservative, pro-Judaeo-Christian, or anti-jihadist, won't be allowed to use Pownce to publicize Digg stories and comments on the same terms as their opponents.

As it is now, Digg may ban one of the particularly threatening or abusive leftists on occasion, probably just for show, but the same user always seems to be allowed back on after a short period of time. Not so for more conservative (even moderately conservative) Digg users who are banned permanently, often for no valid reason that anybody can figure out. But then, Digg's TOS claims the right to ban anybody for any reason or for no reason! The actual, unstated reasons for banning will most likely include posting links to Digg stories on Pownce.

The long and the short of it is that I fear that Pownce will eventually be misused as a tool of censorship and incivility, as - I'm sorry to have to point out - Digg already seems to be. If that happens, then Pownce will be p(o)wned by its competitors.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

1389 — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:38:49 -0000

I linked to this article on my blog post about Twitter vs. Pownce, and invited people to go to this article and post comments about their own experiences, as you requested. Thanks!

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

BarbaraKB — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 09:14:17 -0000

Pownce not being mobile makes it less important, and fun, for me now. Twitter *forces* me to write pithy comments, a good discipline. I am intrigued by the market push that Pownce has being started by digg starlet Kevin Rose.

[I put this in SU for ya Jim... may bring you some more traffic...!]

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

CindyB — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:35:59 -0000

The early version of Pownce allows you to:
* Arrange your contacts in sets
* Reply to individual entries and view in threaded form
* Get a list of suggested friends-of-friends to add to your circle
* Share text entries longer than 140 characters
* Share files of any kind
* Quickly designate each entry to go to: public, friends, or single individual

Twitter is designed for more brief, hit-and-run exchanges. ("I'm driving to the airport now.") Or for chit chat. ("Have a nice day.") On Pownce you already see people taking advantage of the extra features and leaving slightly longer, more content-rich entries. Two different services for two different purposes.

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Ellen — Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:02:46 -0000

I think the reason I keep coming back to Twitter is because of the different tools I use to keep track of and write tweets. I use Firefox and have Twitbin which shows up as a sidebar with my friends tweets and where I can leave a quick tweet. I also use TwittyTunes where I can easily insert a link to the music I am listening to or web page I am browsing. When I'm out I use an application called Egorcast where I can call in tweets and they are transcribed and posted on to Twitter (I can't text message for the life of me). Lastly, I use Twitterfeed which will send a tweet automatically after I have written a blog post. It's pretty neat. You can read my blog post for more info.

If Pownce had these kinds of tools I might use it more. It looks slick but functionality and ease of use is more important. I will use Pownce to share files and such but Twitter has the ease of use. I can follow my friends easily and also watch the public feed where I find new info and friends. It's great to be communicating in real time with people from all over the world.

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

vergenewmedia — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:20:57 -0000

WOW! What a great response! Thank you all for finishing my blog post. Lots and lots of great ideas.

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Brendajos — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 19:17:20 -0000

I have been thinking about this actually since last night when I started updating links on my blog and realized that I needed to get an RSS reader. Before being dragged to Twitter kicking and screaming, I read a couple of blogs but otherwise couldn't be bothered. I had groups that I was fairly social in but in a sort of non-conversational sort of way.

Since joining Twitter I have found a really cool group of people with which to interact. I find that if I have a question, I can get that question answered fairly quickly through my twitter group. I have watched random videos, looked at family photos, and read blogs to the point that these people don't feel like strangers anymore.

When I first joined Twitter, I explained it to a friend in this way: "It is like you are walking up to a complete stranger and telling them whatever is on your mind at that very moment, in 140 characters or less." I was amused by that aspect of it a LOT because I, along with all these other twitterers, was actually willing to listen to the complete strangers who would do this. Today they feel less like strangers. Today we were there when people told us of the passing of their pets and we all felt it a little bit with them, having gone through it before. We have laughed at the mishaps of spouses and children.

Pownce... well pownce doesn't work for me as it is just a little "too much." Would I feel the same way if I had found pownce first? Probably not. But I didn't, and I feel more connected to the people on Twitter. So for now, I will stay with Twitter.

Brenda Schuett

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

Cathryn Hrudicka — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 17:18:15 -0000

I see Twitter, Jaiku and Pownce as being a bit different in their purposes--Twitter simply asks the question, "What are you doing right now?" and also allows you to reply spontaneously to other people's tweets, in a concise 140 characters. Jaiku takes that a bit further and lets you elaborate in your comments, plus join pre-determined "channels" of interest.

Pownce takes the discussion aspect further and gives you over 140 characters--so you're not just saying what you're doing, you're initiating or responding to a more open discussion. Still, I end up copying or feeding the same "tweet" to all three sites due to lack of time and tendonitis in my wrists; but I can post long comments like this one in Pownce. You can also upload files and post longer event listings here, which is better for PR/marketing. I still go to Twitter first each morning, like an old friend or my reliable cup of coffee.:-)
Cathryn Hrudicka, Chief Imagination Officer/Creative Sage(tm)

Re: Twitter vs. Pownce and the Value Proposition of Social Media

vaspers the grate aka steven e — Thu, 05 Jul 2007 16:13:05 -0000

As I stated, and you so kindly quoted, Pownce is the preferred service if you have files to share.

For example, if my Friends following my "notes" on Pownce are music bloggers and music fans of my band's style or genre of music, then I can distribute mp3s of hot new recordings directly to them, to generate buzz for a new CD or a performance, or whatever.

Some say you go where your friends are. My core community is gathered around my flagship blog and my Twitter followers. I started on Twitter due to Robert Scoble saying, in light of the Mean Kids/Kathy Sierra blog stalking and hate trolling, "no wonder I prefer hanging out on Twitter".

That was what pushed me from disdain to avid addiction to Twitter.

I am often opposed to a new, hyped tool/community. But the good ones win me over, as I explore them for potential personal, professional, and client use.

I don't see it as Twitter vs. Pownce vs. Jaiku.

Twitter: text messaging, link archiving
Pownce: text messaging, link sharing, file sharing
Jaiku: text messaging, socnet feed aggregation
Ning: personal portal

After about 4 years of hardcore conventional blogging, I am now converted to Micro Blogging as faster, more intimate, and more satisfying. But I will maintain my regular blogs too.